Sherlene\’s G-LOG

Making Sense of the Census (Fording the Langs, at Present)

Ivey Lankford (b. abt. 1776, son of Thomas Sr. and Mary Collier, of Newport Parish, Isle of Wight, Virginia), m. __?, had four slaves in 1810, in Pulaski Co. Kentucky, d. aft 19 Aug 1834, of Russell County, Kentucky

RELATIONSHIP.  How/if this Ivey (grandson of Thomas Lankford, my ID No. 71489), is connected to my ancestor, Walker Lankford, is unknown.  Ivey Lankford is listed in the 1830 Census of Pulaski County, Kentucky, as one of three Lankfords in that county (the other two were Walker and Stephen, who are listed next to each other in the census, though they lived miles apart, on different creeks).  DNA has been tested for purported descendants of Walker and Stephen, who are thereby shown to be unrelated.  I do not know of any studies for descendants of Ivey.  Any documented male descendants of Ivey, holding the name Langford, are eagerly invited to get in touch and contribute a sample (simple mouth swish), so we can get a DNA profile on this branch of Langfords.  –shb 24 Nov 2007, 3 Dec 2007

NAME IVY OR IVEY–NOT JAY. I first transcribed his name as “Jay,” as it appeared in the 1810 Census of Pulaski County, Kentucky (the only other Langford there, besides my ancestor Walker Lankford). This “Jay” was age 26-44, so born between 1766-1784, which fits for the “Ivy,” “b. abt. 1766, in Pittsylvania County, Virginia,” claimed by some researchers and believed also by me, for some time, to have been a son of my purported ancestors, Joseph and Mary ___ Lankford. However, the only other Ivey Lankford I found (on 12 Jul 2007) is named as a son of William Lankford, son of Thomas Lankford, Sr., and Mary Collier, of Isle of Wight County, Virginia (as outlined by Kathy Newton, at–shb). [Note: Jeff Renner tells me, correspondence of Mar 2007, that he has never seen the name as “Jay,” but always as “Ivy.” –shb.]

NAME FROM SURNAME CONNECTION?  Looking through Southampton County, Virginia deeds, I see that Ivey was a surname in that county, which opens the possibility that one of Ivey Lankford’s maternal lines was surname “Ivey.”  –shb 25 Nov 2007

POSSIBLE ROOTS OF NAME “IVEY”/PERPETUATION OF THE NAME AMONG DIFFERENT LANGFORDS/DNA RESULTS.  E-letter from my brother-in-law, Barry D. Wood, to Gene Lankford, as copied to shb, 2 Dec 2007:
“Gene — No, it was just a lame joke about how that given name ‘Ivy’ shows up at various odd places among the early Langfords. I surmise that ‘Ivy’ as a man’s name is derived from some version of ‘John,’ which as you know is sometimes ‘Ivin’ in Welsh, similar to ‘Ivan’ in Slavic languages. As the Welsh are found of saying ‘Davy’ for David, you could see how ‘Ivy’ would arise from ‘Ivin.’ The patronymic ‘Ivins’ is not as common as ‘Evans,’ but still well known, and we have friends of Welsh descent by that name.

“The Welsh were numerous in colonial Virginia; Davis, Morris, Williams and Jones (another patronymic derived from John) being among the most common surnames in the colony. Supposedly, for example, I have some Davis blood through my Bagby line, which runs from North Carolina back to Hanover, King & Queen and New Kent Counties.

“Back to the given name Ivy — We can’t ignore this moniker on our side, as Fielding Lankford had a nephew by that name — specifically the oldest son of Walker Langford (Lankford) Jr. (Ivy Lankford b. 1836; d. 1874, Clay Co., Ind.) We have long felt that this meant that the earlier Ivy Langford who was in Pulaski County, Ky. from 1800-1810, and eventually died in Russell Co., Ky. (just west of Pulaski), was somehow related to Walker Lankford, as detailed on Sherlene’s G-log, <;.
Yet just as we get more comfortable than ever with the concept of Walker being the son of the Joseph Lankford who died in Lincoln County, Ky. in 1785, and tying back to Nicholas Langford Sr. of Caroline County, Va. through the DNA match with Euclid, here we find that Thomas Lankford of Isle of Wight Co., Va., in his will dated 1778, had a grandson Ivy Lankford, son of William. The timeframe for a man who was orphaned before 1778 would seem to fit the age bracket of the Ivy Lankford on the 1810 census of Pulaski….though that’s not saying a lot, as we have a 20 year frame to work with on that score.

“Now on to another Ivy: I’m assuming that the Thomas Lankford who was born in 1812 in Knox County, Kentucky (county seat Barboursville, about 25 miles east of Pulaski County) may have been a son of this Ivy, as Thomas named a son Ivy. This Thomas’s family appears to be closely linked with that of an Anderson Lankford/Langford, who lived in Indiana near Louisville in the 1820s, as both families ended up in Daviess County, Mo. See <;. Other given names in this bunch bespeak a possible relationship with the Walker Lankford crowd, such as Elias. (One of Walker’s daughters married Elias Cooprider in Clay Co., Ind.) Also they have a Larkin Lankford, just like Walker. And a Frankie.

“AND YET — the DNA results clearly place Thomas Lankford of Isle of Wight County in with Rockcastle Stephen Langford and that crowd, and NOT with Walker and Euclid. So here we have this exceedingly unusual given name Ivy climbing right over the ‘wall’ between the two main tribes of (theoretically) completely unrelated Lankfords! Well, I should say that we have Ivy grandson of Walker on one side, and Ivy grandson of Thomas of Isle/Wight on the other. I guess that the Ivy Lankford of Pulaski County, and the Ivy son of Thomas of Knox County, aren’t defnitely known to be on either side of the wall at this point. In my ignorance, that is — as I am lacking as to proof that the Ivy Lankford who lived in Pulaski 1800-1810 was the same person as the Ivy named in Thomas Lankford’s 1778 will.

“Highly perplexing!

“Barry”  –shb 3 Dec 2007

FATHER WILLIAM, SON OF THOMAS, SR., OF ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VIRGINIA.  That William Lankford (m. ?), son of Thomas Lankford, Sr. and Mary Collier, of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, was father of Ivey Lankford, per “Langford & Lankford Families in Virginia” post by Kathy Newton, at, accessed 12 Jul 2007, by shb.  (See “CHILDREN” tag, notes of Ivey’s father, William, for text detail.)  That this is the Ivey Lankford that was in Pulaski County, Kentucky, is an assumption on my part that requires additional verification.  –shb 13 Jul 2007

MALE OR FEMALE? I had thought Ivy was a female child, but am corrected in this assumption by my brother-in-law, Barry D. Wood, e-letter to shb, 6 Aug 2006: “I have always been under the impression that Ivy Langford of Pulaski County was a man. See page 60 of your Mom’s book [speaking of Progenitors and Descendants of Fielding Langford, as compiled by my mother, Ida-Rose L. Hall–shb]. Is there a reason why you believe him to have been a woman? I realize that in the 19th century and first half of the 20th, Ivy became more common as a girl’s name … until that song “Poison Ivy” dissuaded parents from using it much (though I now a charming lady named Ivy in Grand Junction, Colo., fiancee of a client of mine, who is about 25).” Looking up page sixty in my mother’s book, she writes:

“All these Langfords marrying around the same time certainly suggests a nice family group. I strongly suspect that if they were not brothers and sisters, they were certainly cousins. I would not be surprised if all eight of those named [using Lincoln County, Kentucky tax lists and records until 1810, when Rockcastle County was taken off–shb] were the children of Joseph and Mary Langford. There was also one other Langford in early Kentucky who I believe was a brother or near relative of Walker Langford–IVY LANGFORD. Ivy also lived in Pulaski county, Kentucky where Walker and Stephen Langford lived. The reason that I believe that he is related is because Walker Langford Jr. named one of his sons Ivy. To my way of thinking, Ivy isn’t exactly the kind of name that would be chosen casually for a male child.” –shb 6 Aug 2006

PARENTS: Ivy (Ivey) is named as an eighth child of Joseph and Mary Lankford, per letter to shb, 20 Jan 2006, from Shiron Wordsworth (see Joseph’s notes). Shi says her list of their children is “based, in part, on Martha Langford Green’s research.” –shb 21 Jan 2006

PARENTS WILLIAM LANKFORD, SON OF THOMAS AND MARY COLLIER? I now believe that Ivey’s parents were indeed Thomas and Mary (Collier) Lankford, of Isle of Wight County, in Virginia. Checking through the censuses I see Norfleet neighbors to these Isle of Wight Lankfords, which “fits” a biographical sketch history about Ivy Norfleet (see below) that says the Norfleets were neighbors of Ivey Lankford in Pulaski County, Kentucky and so close that the Norfleets named the son of this history after Ivey Lankford. This of course does not preclude the very real possibility that my ancestor Walker Lankford and Ivey Lankford were somehow related. –shb 12 July 2007

COUNTY INFORMATION.  In 1732 a considerable, northwestern part of Isle of Wight County went to form Brunswick County.  In 1748, all of Southampton County was carved from the Isle of Wight (did not include Newport Parish).  In 1750, the courthouse, Isle of Wight County, was at Smithfield.

MAY-JUNE 1778–GRANDFATHER THOMAS LANKFORD, SR. DIES WHEN IVEY IS ABOUT AGE TWO? Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia 1647-1800, by Blanche Adams Chapman (reprinted in an improved format, with a consolidated index, by Jessica Budick and Anita Comtois (searched at the FHL, 23 Jun 2007, by shb), p. 243: “LANKFORD, Thomas: Of Newport Parish. Leg. son Stephen, son Jesse, son Thomas, daughter Elizabeth Chappell; granddaughter Mary Watkins; grandson George, son of William Lankford decd.; grandson Ivey Lankford. Ex., son Thomas Lankford. D. May 24, 1778. R. June 4, 1778. Wit: Joseph Mountfort, Wade Mountfort, Thomas English, Patience Brittain. Security, John Lawrence. Page 492.” –shb 11 July 2007

ABT 1776–BIRTH IN PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY, VIRGINIA: Ivy (Ivey)’s approximate birth year and county courtesy of Shiron Wordsworth’s compilation of the “Children of Joseph and Mary (Unknown) Langford,” as forwarded to shb, 23 Jan 2006. She wrote that her list was based on research of Martha Langford Green. –shb 24 Jan 2006 [Note: “Ivey Lankford” is named as a grandson in the 1778 will of Thomas Lankford, of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, so if the Pulaski Co. Ivey is the same person who was Thomas Sr.’s grandson, then he would have to have been born before May-June 1778–shb.]

BROTHER TO WALKER LANKFORD? See 1810 Census notes, below, where “Warker” [my ancestor, see ID 230–shb] and “Ivy” Lankford seem to be the only Lankfords in Pulaski County, in 1810. There’s also a Robert Lankford, ID 66367 in Kentucky, in 1810, age 26-45. –shb 6 Mar 2006

1800–ON PULASKI COUNTY TAX LIST, WITH FOUR HUNDRED ACRES, ON FISHING CREEK. My letter to Langfords on my list, including fellow researchers, 16 June 2007: ” . . . I stayed on [at the Harold B. Lee Library, Brigham Young University, 15 June 2007] and looked up a reference I had been wondering about, that was somehow lost to me. It took four hours, but I found it (along with lots of other stuff). A History of Pulaski County, Kentucky, compiled by Alma Owens Tibbals (Bagdad, Kentucky: Published by Grace Owens Moore, 1952), p. 27, names some of the larger landowners in Pulaski County, shown by tax lists in 1799-1806.

“Tibbals notes that when the first tax list of Pulaski County settlers was taken in 1799, there ‘are listed 383 white males twenty-one years of age and over, 121 slaves, and 886 horses.’

“Rockcastle County was not formed from Pulaski County until 1810 . . .[Note: About this, Jeff Renner writes: “”Pulaski only contributed a very small part to Rockcastle. It was mostly Lincoln, with about a quarter/third Madison. Jeff” –shb 17 June 2007] Back to Sherlene’s letter:

“Anyway, only one Langford was listed by Tibbels as being a prominent Pulaski County land owner, as noted on the 1800 tax list (Walker was in Pulaski by then, but only had 100 acres): “Jocy Langford” had 400 acres on Fishing Creek, in 1800 [that’s the reference I was looking for, bolding and italics of his first name, mine–shb]. Only two other large land owners on Fishing Creek are named–Sherad Reynolds (346 acres), also in 1800, and William Durham (800 acres), in 1804.

“I brought up and enlarged Jeff Renner’s map showing the distance between Line Creek, where Walker lived in 1830, and Lick Creek, where Stephen2 was that year. I got out my magnifiers, but my feeble eyes couldn’t find a Fishing Creek, where Ivy was, on that map.

“Jeff, do you know who this Jocy Langford is, with 400 acres, on Fishing Creek, in 1800? I used to think this was the clerk’s shorthand for “Joseph.” Now I am wondering if the transcriber made the mistake I did, in reverse, and mistook an “I” for a “J,” and this should read “Ivey Langford” (I first thought it was “Jay,” in the Census). We think this Ivey was Walker’s brother–he was the only other Langford besides Walker and ‘Flintlock’ Stephen (the 2nd), in Pulaski County, in 1830.” Jeff’s response, same day: “Probably a mistranscription for Ivey Langford. He had land on Fishing Creek. It’s in a different section of the county (north/northwest/west).” –shb 17 June 2007

[Note: John Robert or “Bob” Langford (a descendant of Stephen1 and Stephen2) addresses this, e-note of 17 June 2007: “Sherlene, Fishing Creek empties into Lake Cumberland about 5 miles due west of Somerset in Pulaski County. If you look at a map of Pulaski and Lincoln counties, you will see that its headwaters are near Hall’s Gap, which is about 5 miles west of the William Whitley house near Crab Orchard. And remember that Stephen 1 first settled on land adjoining Whitley’s property. So, I’m betting this 400 acres was in that vicinity, maybe even adjoining Stephen’s property. That is another close connection between the two families. Bob” –shb 18 June 2007]

IVEY’S OTHER LAND: As forwarded by Terry Smith to shb, 19 June 2007: “A quick review of Langfords in the War of 1812 on revealed the attached. I also did a quick review of KY Land Grants for Langford. Results are below: [Note: Land was listed for Stephen, Jonathan, Larkin, Ivey, Robert, Evin, R. [sic–shb], Jerry, Joseph, Owen, Benj., Sol, Elias, Solomon, Langford & Meece, Liberty, James, James H., Moses, Reuben, Mary Ann, J. W., Ben J., R.E., Meece & Langford, Smith & Langford.

Data Source: Kentucky Land Grant
View Record Grantee Acres Book Survey Date County WaterCourse

View Record Langford, Ivy 200 10 2-12-1799 Lincoln Kings Cr
View Record Langford, Ivey 37 23 2-25-1816 Pulaski Fishing Cr
View Record Langford, Ivey 200 24 9- 8-1807 Pulaski King Cr
View Record Langford, Ivey 13 J 4-13-1821 Pulaski Fishing Cr
View Record Langford, Ivey 65 E-2 8-19-1834 Russell Cumberland R
View Record Langford, Jerry 50 13 4-23-1842 Wayne Lick Log Br Cumberland [I added this, because according to a Pulaski County Page, a Garrard or Garrett Langford served in the War of 1812, from Polaski–we have no idea who he was or who his parents were, though it is thought he may have been associated with Ivy–shb]. [Note: Since then, I have found record of a “Jerry” Langford,” in Wayne County, Kentucky, who was “Black”–same person?–shb.]

“Source Information: Kentucky Land Grants [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997. Original data: Jillson, Willard Rouse. The Kentucky Land Grants. Vol. I-II. Louisville, KY, USA: Filson Club Publications, 1925. Description: This database contains the records of the Kentucky Land Office from 1782 to 1924. The work is intended as a source book for historical workers, genealogists, and others who need a complete and chronological index to the early documentary land records and history of Kentucky.” –shb

ABT. 1769–WALKER LANKFORD’S BIRTH: This estimate from letter of Barry D. Wood to the family, 12 Oct 2003. –shb 12 Oct 2003

1800–IVEY IS TAXED FOR 400 ACRES, ON FISHING CREEK, IN PULASKI COUNTY, KENTUCKY. In 1800, “Jocy” Langford had 400 acres on Fishing Creek, in Pulaski County, Kentucky, as included by Alma Owens Tibbals in her A History of Pulaski County, Kentucky, p. 27. However, as I proposed, Jeff Renner agrees, 17 June 2007, that this is “probably a mistranscription for Ivey Langford. He had land on Fishing Creek. It’s in a different section of the county (north/northwest/west). Pulaski only contributed a very small part to Rockcastle [in 1810–shb]. It was mostly Lincoln, with about a quarter/third Madison.” We think Ivey was probably Walker’s brother. When I asked Jeff, along with other family researchers, if any had heard of a soldier from Pulaski County named Garrard (or Garrett) Langford, who served in the War of 1812 (Tibbals, p. 206), he replied: “I think the name is Garrett Langford. I don’t know who he is, but he could be associated with Ivey. I’ve never come across him in eastern Pulaski or Rockcastle.” –shb 17 June 2007 [Note: as above indicated, have since found records in Wayne County, Kentucky, indicating that this Garrett Langford was black–shb.]


On Page 144 [though this does not indicate location, as this census list is alphabetized–shb] is listed Jay [or Ivy] Lankford [I don’t see Jay [is Ivy there?–shb] on tax lists, though–shb]
Males: 2 age ten and under , 1 age 26-45 [Jay]
Females: 1 age 16-26, 1 age 26-45
None in household over age 45
4 blacks.

[Note:  My ancestor Walker Lankford was also in Pulaski County, Kentucky, in 1810, living with wife, Mary/Polly, and five children (see below).  Walker had no slaves in 1810, but by 1830 had three of them–shb.]

CLOSE NEIGHBOR, “IVY NORFLEET,” IN PULASKI COUNTY, NAMED AFTER “IVY LANKFORD”? [I am including this biographical sketch, as it may give insight about life of our Lankfords, while they were in Kentucky, and maybe even some family migrations, as neighboring families sometimes traveled together–shb.] As posted at, accessed 12 Feb 2007, by shb: “Biographical Sketch of Ivy Norfleet, by Phil Norfleet:

“Ivy6 Norfleet (James5, John4, John3, John2, Thomas1 Northfleete) was born 29 October 1799 in Pulaski County KY, and died 05 June 1883 in Miller County MO. He married Martha C. ____ on 01 June 1838. She was born 27 November 1816 in VA, and died 24 July 1876 in Cole County MO. Ivy was the son of James Norfleet (1767-1849) and his wife, Elizabeth (1775-1826) of Pulaski, Wayne and Russell Counties, Kentucky.

“I believe that Ivy was probably named after Ivy Langford (also sometimes spelled Lankford). The Langfords were early immigrants to Kentucky from North Carolina, having arrived in Lincoln County in about 1787. However, Ivy Langford settled in Pulaski County at about the same time as James Norfleet, father of Ivy Norfleet. Ivy Langford was a close neighbor of both James Norfleet (when he still lived in Pulaski County) and David Norfleet. James Norfleet and Ivy Langford both surveyed 200 acre tracts of land on the same day (12 February 1799) and each served as a chain carrier for the other during those surveys. Ivy Norfleet was the first child born to James Norfleet after he had arrived in KY and the name “Ivy” had never been used previously by any Norfleet of whom I am aware.

“Ivy Norfleet primarily was a stock raiser, although, like most other people of the time, he also was a farmer. For about a twelve-year period, during the late 1820’s and 1830’s, with the help of his younger brother, Larkin, he raised both cattle and horses. When they were ready for sale, the two brothers would drive their stock overland to market them in Montgomery, Alabama. In about 1839, Ivy permanently left Kentucky and immigrated to Missouri. In Missouri he surveyed (8 June 1839) and patented (10 November 1841) land in the Hickory Hill region of Cole County. He remained in Cole until his death on 05 June 1883.

“During the Civil War, Ivy, like his younger brother, Reverend Abraham Norfleet, was a supporter of the Union. Two of his children, John (a corporal) and Thomas W. (a private), served in the Union Army, in the 9th Provisional Missouri Regiment of Infantry. Two of Abraham Norfleet’s sons (John W. and Adam C.) were also in the same regiment. In 1864, also like his brother Abraham, he freed all of his slaves.” –shb 12 Feb 2007 [Note:  This biographical sketch was helpful, in helping identify Ivey as probably the Ivey who was son of Isle of Wight Thomas Lankford Sr., as I found Norfleets living among Lankfords in Isle of Wight census records, including a James or Jonas M. Norfleet, age 29, who in 1860 lives near Mills Eley (my ID 71502, m. Caty Lankford, daughter of Ivey’s uncle, Stephen Lankford and wife Sarah Watkins).]  –shb 13 Jul 2007

LIVED NOT FAR FROM WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY. E-note from Jeff Renner to shb, 25 June 2007, after I sent information about some Bakers I found in Wayne County, asking if he knew whether they connected to the Martha Baker who married Matthew Warren (of Pulaski County, KY). Writes Jeff: “If the Corder-Baker thing was in Wayne County, I’d say that’s a different Lick Creek. The Lick Creek in Pulaski is a long way from Wayne County. However, where Ivey Lankford lived isn’t far from Wayne County. . . .” –shb 25 June 2007


No township listed, Pulaski County, Kentucky (cover page also calls it Rockcastle Co.)
Series M252, Roll 8, Page 145:

Males: 2 age ten and under [one would be Fielding, b. 1804–shb], 1 age 26-45 [Walker]
Females: 3 age ten and under [one would be Cynthia, b. 1806–shb] 1 age 26-45
None upwards of 45
No blacks. –shb 6 Mar 2006

1820 CENSUS–“IVY LANGFORD” IS IN SOMERSET, PULASKI, KENTUCKY.  HeritageQuest on-line census image, accessed 25 Nov 2007, by shb, from home, via Provo, Utah Public Library:

Somerset, Pulaski County, Kentucky
Series M33, Roll 27, Page 86
Taken 1820

Peter Blumer
Charles Hays
Ivy Langford  4 1 _ _ _ 1 1 _ _ 1 _/7 _ _ 2 1 1 _ 1 1 _ 1
James Earl
Vincent Garner
Malachi Cooper
Francis Aldrige . . . .

Variables for 1820 Census (left to right):
number of free white males under ten years of age
number of free white males 10-15 years of age
number of free white males 16-18 years of age
number of free white males 16-25 years of age
number of free white males 26-44 years of age
number of free white males 45 years of age and over
number of free white females under ten years of age
number of free white females 10-15 years of age
number of free white females 16-25 years of age
number of free white females 26-44 years of age
number of free white females 45 years of age and over
number of foreign persons not naturalized
number of persons engaged in agriculture
number of persons engaged in commerce
number of persons engaged in manufacturing

Using the above table, I take Ivy’s enumeration to mean that in his household were:
4 free white males under age ten
1 free white male age 10-15
1 free white male age 45 years of age and over [Ivy]
one free white female under age ten
one free white female age 10-15
one free white female age 45 and over [Ivy’s wife]
7 foreign persons not naturalized
2 persons engaged in commerce
[don’t see other listings in this table–shb] –shb 25 Nov 2007

AFT 1834, AUGUST 19–DEATH–IVEY WAS OF RUSSELL COUNTY, KENTUCKY. See Ivey’s land grants, above, the latest of which was in Russell County, Kentucky, dated 19 August 1834. –shb 20 June 2007


July 12, 2007 - Posted by | Genealogy, Kentucky Langfords, Virginia Langfords

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